Can I Cancel Marketplace Insurance When I Get a Job?


I have been actively searching for jobs since I was terminated in September (never thinking it would be more than a month before I found something). In my career, healthcare is always provided as a benefit, so I have optimistically waited to enroll. Assuming I get a job within the next few months (I have several interview lined up), can I cancel insurance bought through the marketplace, when my new employer provides it as part of my benefits?

 

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As the lockdown restrictions were eased and certain sports and exercises were allowed again, I got out walking and kayaking, whereas Stacey got back on the golf course at every opportunity, where she is very accomplished (playing off a handicap of 5). She played 2 or 3 times a week with her friend Amy, who roped her into entering a mixed completion. Stacey eagerly told me about the comp coming up in 6 months and that she would be playing with Gary and Tony. Tony was new to me, an average player and someone making the numbers up. Gary I knew from way back, an excellent golfer and a bit of a ladies man. Despite knowing this, I didn’t say anything, I’m not the jealous type and have never had cause to be. Of the 2-3 rounds a week, Stacey and Amy played, Gary and Tony joined them, but again as they were playing as a 4, I didn’t worry unduly.

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Over the last 15 years we have grown together, both in spirit as soul mates and sexually. At 42 I’m older and have certainly had more experience. She is trusting and open minded, most new things she has tried with me, she has enjoyed and gone on to develop. Sex indoors, sex outdoors, making love, fucking like animals, some rough play, dressing up, we’ve come a long way together. But recently things had gone off the boil, the UK covid lockdown didn’t help, Stacey, me and the kids were cooped up together for a long period, limit privacy and working from home consuming us, probably made worse for me as my masturbating opportunities were also reduced.

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As the lockdown restrictions were eased and certain sports and exercises were allowed again, I got out walking and kayaking, whereas Stacey got back on the golf course at every opportunity, where she is very accomplished (playing off a handicap of 5). She played 2 or 3 times a week with her friend Amy, who roped her into entering a mixed completion. Stacey eagerly told me about the comp coming up in 6 months and that she would be playing with Gary and Tony. Tony was new to me, an average player and someone making the numbers up. Gary I knew from way back, an excellent golfer and a bit of a ladies man. Despite knowing this, I didn’t say anything, I’m not the jealous type and have never had cause to be. Of the 2-3 rounds a week, Stacey and Amy played, Gary and Tony joined them, but again as they were playing as a 4, I didn’t worry unduly.

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With a head full of emotions, anger, lust and confusion. I flipped her over to face me, she immediately saw the look on my face and looking eye to eye, she teared up and quivered “I’m so sorry, I don’t want to lose you” at this point, with the realisation that I’d be licking sweat and spunk from my wifes pussy after she’d been unfaithful with another man, my hard on should have gone, but it was fit to burst. Not only fit to burst, but laid upwards between Stacey and me, rubbing against her dripping pussy, with every slight movement. There was 10 seconds of silence, in which we never lost eye contact. Stacey laid back on the bed, me holding her legs by the ankles, with her sodden panties pressing firmly against my chest. After the eternity like moment of silence, with one hand Stacey pushed my cock inside her, I couldn’t believe how lubricated and warm her pussy was.

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I then started to wonder why Stacey hadn’t told me and began to think things, I got myself in a mess wondering if Stacey was having an affair, but was able to rationalise things and put my thoughts down to petty jealousy, after all Tony was there to cock block Gary. Strangely though, with the mix of emotions I’d been feeling, I was quite turned on by my dirty mind wrongly thinking what my wife was up to. With my dirty mind getting the better of me, I shut myself away from the kids in the bathroom and wanked myself furiously at the thought my wife being fucked o the golf course by Gary, Tony even joined my fantasy at one point as I imagined her being bent over in the woods by both men, using her and leaving her full of cum. I came buckets myself at the thought. Immediately afterwards I was overcome by guilt and anger at myself for being turned on by such thoughts. I pushed all that to the back of my mind and went downstairs, to prep the kids evening dinner, which I served before jumping in the shower upstairs in the en-suite.

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I then started to wonder why Stacey hadn’t told me and began to think things, I got myself in a mess wondering if Stacey was having an affair, but was able to rationalise things and put my thoughts down to petty jealousy, after all Tony was there to cock block Gary. Strangely though, with the mix of emotions I’d been feeling, I was quite turned on by my dirty mind wrongly thinking what my wife was up to. With my dirty mind getting the better of me, I shut myself away from the kids in the bathroom and wanked myself furiously at the thought my wife being fucked o the golf course by Gary, Tony even joined my fantasy at one point as I imagined her being bent over in the woods by both men, using her and leaving her full of cum. I came buckets myself at the thought. Immediately afterwards I was overcome by guilt and anger at myself for being turned on by such thoughts. I pushed all that to the back of my mind and went downstairs, to prep the kids evening dinner, which I served before jumping in the shower upstairs in the en-suite.

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As the lockdown restrictions were eased and certain sports and exercises were allowed again, I got out walking and kayaking, whereas Stacey got back on the golf course at every opportunity, where she is very accomplished (playing off a handicap of 5). She played 2 or 3 times a week with her friend Amy, who roped her into entering a mixed completion. Stacey eagerly told me about the comp coming up in 6 months and that she would be playing with Gary and Tony. Tony was new to me, an average player and someone making the numbers up. Gary I knew from way back, an excellent golfer and a bit of a ladies man. Despite knowing this, I didn’t say anything, I’m not the jealous type and have never had cause to be. Of the 2-3 rounds a week, Stacey and Amy played, Gary and Tony joined them, but again as they were playing as a 4, I didn’t worry unduly.

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I then did exactly what I said, I went at her with no love whatsoever, just pounding her, legs held out by the ankles one minute, over my shoulders the next. Hardly ever losing eye contact, I spoke obscenely to her, calling her a whore and a tramp, I said “what a dirty slut she was” to which she shook her head “of course you are, bringing home a pussy and thong full of another guys spunk” I said. “It was a good job, your MY dirty slut” she nodded eagerly at this, “that’s better” I said. I then reached under her and lift her bum with my hands, grinding my cock into her. I parted her bum cheeks and started working the tip of my finger into her arsehole, I asked her “did you let the prick fuck your arse?” she didn’t shake her head or nod at this, she mumbled something through the dripping panties. I carried on humping her whilst clenching her bum with my hands, rubbing her arsehole with my finger. I clamped down with my mouth around the lacy material which was hanging out of her mouth and pulled the panties out of her mouth, she gasped and started nibbling my nipple (she knows I love this). I asked her again “ did he fuck your arse?”. She look up from my nipples and looked me in the eye again and said “no he didn’t, he was fucking me from behind and said he wanted to but I said no, that didn’t stop him pushing his thumb into my arsehole at the same time he growled that he was going to cum” this nearly pushed me over the edge and I could feel my cock starting to swell. Stacey sensed the reaction in me too, adding “I liked it and by that point if he’d asked again, I’d have let him fuck me in the arse” I interrupted her “I’m gonna cum you dirty bitch, I’m . . .” this time the lacy panties were used to cut my sentence short and gag me, covered in cum, sweat, juices and saliva, Stacey pushed them into my mouth and carried on talking “I had a little orgasm quite quickly with him fucking me, must have been the novelty of fucking someone new and it being outside, but when he went from ploughing me with hands on my hips, to sticking one thumb in my bum hole and the other in my mouth to pull me backwards to him, the deeper angle he got into me, plus the feeling of helplessness, pushed me over the edge and a huge orgasm waved over me, my pussy convulsed, which pushed Gary over the edge and he emptied his balls into me, like a someone violently emptying a pot to ensure all the contents would come out.” I didn’t even make it through to the end of her dirty recollection, mid sentence I flushed her pussy out with my cum, whilst still looking her in the eye. But now, I was laid on top of her, cock still rigid inside her, hands still clamped around her bum. My head was over her shoulder buried into the pillow, with her used filthy underwear firmly clenched in my mouth. She then added “I came that hard, that Gary couldn’t remove his thumb from by arse, I had to consciously relax my bum and it still stung taking it out. BUT THAT fuck with you just then tops anything we’ve ever done. Rob, I am truly sorry, but thank you and I do love you. We lay there panting together, for some strange reason I felt as close to her as ever and knew I still loved her. Normal life resumed shortly afterwards, when we heard the kids shouting upstairs that they wanted dessert. Stacey ran to the bathroom, I could see spunk dripping down her legs. I threw my robe on and went downstair

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But back to the job in hand, I said “I don’t want to hear I love you, I’m sorry or anything, I just want to use your dirty cum filled cunt. You just lay back and enjoy, but while you do think very very clearly about what happens when I’m done. Because we are going to have a talk and if your 100 honest and hide nothing, we have a chance, but anything short of that and we are done, OK?” She nodded her understanding, what a picture she was, her mouth bulging with lace, hair all over the place, covered in sweat and god knows what else.

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I had Marketplace Health and Dental plans for a few months in 2021, had to cancel them as I began working with a new employer and had to use thier plan. I am now losing that job and need to re-apply for Marketplace isurance for December of 2021.I have been told by a Marketplace rep. that since I cancelled a 2021 plicy I do not qualify for another in 2021. IS this true?

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That is not correct. You lost your employer plan, which should qualify you (it doesn’t matter that you canceled, as you afterward lost your coverage). Maybe try to explain your situation a little better so they understand you lost your employer plan and then if they still say no ask why. Maybe I am missing a detail, but in general special enrollment should kick in.

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I was paying health insurance in nj which was subsidized for my son and his wife. I paid for four months and did not sign up for automatic payments. I used a credit card one time but they were not allowed to use again. I cancelled through the insurance companies site, not marketplace and they continued billing. The insurance company charged three months of premiums to my credit card without approval to do so. Is this allowed. I am out 1200.00 and the subsidized amount will be taxed on my son’s return. Is this legal?

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If you were charged in error you can appeal the charges. Simply call the insurer and explain the situation. If you have to appeal, you have the right to appeal this as well.

https://obamacarefacts.com/health-insurance-appeal-rights-under-obamacare/

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Question…I notified Obama Care that I was canceling my coverage in January 2018 since I took a new job. I had spoken with a customer service person at the healthcare.gov and they assured me it was canceled. When I asked them to send me confirmation through email they said they don’t do that. Fast forward. I received a letter from the IRS asking for a form 8962 with a copy of my 1095-A. I was confused and to my surprise they didn’t cancel my coverage. So for the full year I was covered by Obama Care, unbeknownst to me. Now it looks like they want their credits paid pack because my income is over the 400% of national poverty for a family of 4. They is crushing to us. We recieved nothing from the Obama Care throughout the year of 2018 and had no clue we had this insurance. I carried private insurance through my employer the whole time. How does one go about showing the IRS that the government didn’t cancel my Obama car when I requested it otherwise this could be a 15K bill for nothing. I can’t beleive it didn’t get canceled when I was assured it was. Thanks in advance

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Hmmm, if you never made a payment, you should not have had coverage. Something doesn’t add up here. The only way the above would have happened is if you had your premium on auto-pay and you simply didn’t’ notice it. Even if that is the case, and pretty much regardless, you can appeal.

I would start the appeal by calling the official healthcare.gov number though, because like I said, some of this doesn’t add up and you should be careful this is legit and not a scam.

So good luck, but the bottom line here is appeal, appeal, appeal (until you can’t appeal any more) and call only the official phone numbers.

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Hi. This is a tough one I hope you can help. I applied for and received ACA coverage for 2018 during open enrollment 12/17 as a single unmarried person who made $27k/yr and working multiple PT jobs, so I qualified for Advanced Tax Credits in order to offset the cost of coverage. 3 things happened after. 1) I got a FT job w/ employer health insurance. 2) I forgot to cancel the ACA coverage and it overlapped so once I realized it I cancelled but it still has me receiving ATC on my 1095 even though I was paying for health insurance through my employer, dumb but honest mistake. 3) I was unmarried on 1/1/18 but got married on 12/15/18 and we filed married jointly and were both on separate employer health coverage for all 12 months of the year. Our combined AGI has us outside the federal poverty line by a large % but I’m curious if I’m eligible to bring the reconciled APTC $ repayment down at all from the full amount based on “alternative calculation for your year of marriage.” Please help!

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You are right, that is not a simple one.

First and foremost the rule that you can’t have access to employer coverage and ACA tax credits probably takes precedent over all else.

So logically you will have to pay back some credits.

From there it is about applying the alternative calculation. You got married the last month in the year, so I would very much think you have room to do this. That could potentially qualify you for some limits on the repayment.

That said, this is beyond what I can do in my head and without specifics. I would 1000% see a CPA on this one myself, and thus it would be silly for me to try to play CPA.

I will only say that, depending on your income alone and your total income there may be a way. Also, maybe just maybe there is some sort of special exemption you can take based on your confusion (especially if a marketplace assister pushed you in the wrong direction given your employment status). Again though, you likely need a tax professional on this one.

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I had marketplace insurance for 10 out of 12 months in 2018, started a new job in October of 2018 one of the benefits being employer paid insurance. I notified my health exchange in October to terminate the marketplace plan prior to my new employers plan starting in November. The health exchange did not manage to do that, and paid an APTC to the insurance company for November, which the insurance company was not entitled to, for I had employer paid insurance in effect for November and December. Is the the insurance company obligated to return that extra month’s credit to my health exchange?

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You can generally appeal a marketplace decision or action.

If you notified them with enough time to cancel the plan, then this should not have happened.

Learn more about appeal rights: https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace-appeals/what-you-can-appeal/

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I had an ACA plan for a couple of months at the beginning of 2018 because my employer didn’t offer group insurance. I got a different job in 2018 with higher income and with group insurance, and canceled my ACA plan right away. Now my tax software says I need to pay back premiums, even though my increased income was only after I cancelled my ACA plan. Is that right?

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In general yes, if it happened in the same year then it could be. Assistance is based on annual income, not just income while you have the marketplace plan. The tax credits are actually just “tax credits taken in advanced based on annual income and then accounted for at tax time.” That said, it is still subject to repayment limits. https://obamacarefacts.com/advanced-tax-credit-repayment-limits/

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conflicting statements:
You won’t lose cost assistance eligibly until the employer plan starts.

Keep in mind that if your marketplace coverage extends past your start date for the employer, you could face one month where you pay for two plans… and the Marketplace plan wouldn’t be eligible for cost assistance!

If I am making money at a new job but don’t have insurance for some waiting period, then what is my situation?

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So what we mean here is that you want to avoid overlap. So you want to make sure your coverage is canceled as close to your employer start date as possible.

If you hold two plans in one month, you are essentially paying for two plans. It can be hard to avoid this, but with cost assistance considered, you can see how it would get messy. So when you know your new insurance will start coordinate your old insurance to cancel. Try to avoid a gap in coverage, but keep in mind that a gap can be better than an overlap in many cases.

An ideal system is probably less complex, but this is the gist. Make sense? Feel free to ask a followup.

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I want to see in writing the rule for a health plan to charge me when I don’t pay due to gaining coverage through Oregon health plan. I want to know if it is legal for them to charge me for the month my coverage ended. I need to see a rule in this they have sent me to collections.

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I started a new job, in which I receive health insurance. I quit paying the premiums for my insurance through the Healthlink, but I forgot to actually terminate the plan until recently. The payment for my premiums are due and failure to pay will result in loss of coverage. However, I don’t need this coverage anyway since I now have it through my employer. If I do not pay the premiums, will this be able to affect my employer-paid coverage?

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In addition to canceling Marketplace insurance, what about when i do my taxes and my gross income amount has changed from what i estimated before i had a new job. How does one fill out tax forms to reflect this?

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When you file form 8962 you will calculate your actual tax credit based on your actual income. You will then request a tax refund or pay back advanced tax credits as per the instructions on 8962. Learn more here: https://obamacarefacts.com/premium-tax-credit-form-8962/

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